How the Anti-Vax and Woo Sites Hoodwink those Seeking Vaccine Information

The CDC is not to be trusted, don't ya know? That FDA is in cahoots with the big pharma, for sure. And they want to kill an entire generation and more to fulfill the Illuminati's plans for world domination. 80% of the population needs to die off for this to happen, and one of the ways they are going to do it is through VACCINES!

Listen, I'm good, really, I am, at dreaming up stories, but not even Dan Brown would go this deep into the bowels of the woo. Thelma took a gander, though, after reading a quote Blanco provided nonsourced, of course, at AoA. From here on out, we can completely dismiss anything Blanco has to say, as this site makes whale.to look like preschool crazy.

Almost as bad is another site that Thelma found: a doctor who says vaccines cause SIDS, shaken baby syndrome and a whole host of bunk.

Now, right up there in levels of bad is this site: ChildHealthSafety, who I'll be honest, I'm pretty sure that John Stone of AoA and perhaps others are connected to. This page at whale.to links right over to this uber-woo site. Incidentally, as I recall reading on Thelma's blog, she got banned from this blog her first venture out commenting. She was mighty proud of it.

I'm going to shift focus slightly, to discuss how someone might potentially misinterpret or misremember something relating to vaccine risks, say, like varicella. Say someone thought that the deaths related to the varicella vaccine were 100 a year, the same as the deaths from varicella, and say even more, that they were certain that they had seen this ON the CDC website around four years ago.

How do we begin to figure out where the truth lies? Did the CDC actually have that information on their website? They don't now. What about VAERS? How many entries for deaths, for all ages, across all time periods, regardless of time since vaccination occured? How many did that search result in? 16. What about this 2006 article on the varicella vaccine (Wise RP, Salive ME, Braun MM, et al. (2000). "Postlicensure safety surveillance for varicella vaccine". JAMA 284 (10): 1271–9. doi:10.1001/jama.284.10.1271. PMID 10979114), there were no reported deaths related to the varicella vaccine.

Then, there's this on the adverse reactions from, of course, a reputable site: "Varicella vaccine is safe; reactions are generally mild and occur with an overall frequency of approximately 5% to 35%. Approximately 20% of immunized persons will experience minor injection site reactions (eg, pain, redness, swelling). Approximately 3% to 5% of immunized children will develop a localized rash, and an additional 3% to 5% will develop a generalized varicella-like rash. These rashes typically consist of 2 to 5 lesions and may be maculopapular rather than vesicular; lesions usually appear 5 to 26 days after immunization. However, most varicella-form rashes that occur within the first 2 weeks after varicella immunization are due to wild-type VZV.31 Although a temperature higher than 38.9°C (102°F) has been observed from 1 to 42 days after immunization in 15% of healthy immunized children, fever also occurs in a similar percentage of children receiving placebo and is not considered to be a significant adverse event of immunization.32 A temperature higher than 37.8°C (100°F) has been reported in 10% of adolescents and adults who are immunized with the vaccine. Serious adverse events, such as encephalitis, ataxia, erythema multiforme, Stevens-Johnson syndrome, pneumonia, thrombocytopenia, seizures, neuropathy, and death, have been reported rarely in temporal association with varicella vaccine. In some cases, wild-type VZV or another causal agent has been identified. In most cases, data are insufficient to determine a causal association."

Now, I know it can be really hard, really boring to pore through medical literature. It's a whole lot easier to go to these sites that offer information in easy to read chunks like this one: "Internet medical celebrity Dr. Joseph Mercola theorizes that since varicella virus is a member of the Human Herpes virus family (herpesvirus 3 or HHV3), naturally acquired chickenpox may provide protection against other herpesviruses that have been implicated in causing cancer, Bell's Palsy, multiple sclerosis, AIDS, and chronic fatigue syndrome." Note that this whale.to referring to Mercola. Oh, and Barbara Loe Fisher's there, too. Don't worry about chicken pox; it's a couple days for lifelong immunity; besides those 100 people dying each year are dying from complications, not the chicken pox itself. Oh, for pity's sake. You know what getting the chicken pox gives you? A dormant virus in your spinal cord that can later cause painful shingles. No conclusive evidence that the varicella vaccine does that. No reason to believe it will, or that adults need to be at risk of getting chicken pox as their immunity wanes. Boosters will prevent a loss of immunity. And you'll avoid the risk of those pesky complications that can kill you.


AutismNewsBeat said...

I came down with shingles about four years ago. It was the worst pain I've ever felt. The right side of my face was covered with angry red blisters, and my muscles froze. I couldn't close my lips, so I had to tilt my head back to drink fluids or they would spill out of my mouth. I had a recurring, referred pain that felt like someone was shoving a sharp pencil against my eardrum. I reflexively moved my head away from the imagined pressure, sometimes falling to the ground just to relieve the pain. I still have a dead spot on my chin where the nerves died off and never came back.

Yeah, varicella is no big deal.

Josh said...

Scheibner was one of the bits of "evidence" that was brought to my attention that I addressed in my debunking of some anti-vaccine nonsense that you kindly linked to. Interestingly, the person I was responding to and I are now on very good terms and he seems to have been "converted"!

Blessedly, I'm currently the 3rd result for "viera scheibner sids" and "viera scheibner shaken baby"(but unfortunately not for "viera scheibner" alone... my page rank isn't that good :)).

Josh DeWald

KWombles said...

Josh, I hadn't (nor apparently had Thelma) Scheibner's personal website. So much woo, so little time.

Josh said...

Scheibner is utterly insane. It's hard for me to imagine someone going to her site and being convinced of her credibility ;)

Too much woo indeed.

Squillo said...

The whole shameful genesis of the shaken-baby syndrome=vaccine injury ploy is laid out at Peter Bowditch's ratbags site.

I would hope even most of the AoA/SafeMinds supporters would cringe at the way Yurko, Buttram et al. are using their cause.

Yurko is the only person in the entire vaccination debate who has truly, directly earned the title "baby killer."