"You guys are the ones who have no hope. You say nothing can change your children's autism. Well your wrong. Autism can be changed. It can be changed by diet, chelation, drugs, therapy, and several other treatments. And since autism can be changed, then why can't it get better? I've seen my son go from bad to good back to bad and now worse than ever. How's that possible if autism can't be changed?"
Exchanges at forums, blogs, threads, and the like can get heated. And as ugly as the moderators are willing to allow through on those that are moderated. On unmoderated ones, the language, the viciousness can make a gal sit up straight and gasp. Or spew her fresca. I prefer when I'm spewing it on the screen in laughter and not in sheer amazement at the lies a person is willing to tell. Like the above. Flat out lies and he knows it. And, you, readers, know it, too. Whether you've read any of my stuff at Huff, or not, you know it by my words here. By my words at Detritus. At Science Rocks. At the Countering AoA Facebook group, and by, gods, at Huff, as well.
We'll take it line by line.
"You guys are the ones who have no hope. "
It's complicated and I won't make you wade through the posts at Huff that preceeded this post by this person, but Sirenity (Angela-- blog http://lovethosekids.blog.ca) began it with a rebuttal to a particularly ugly post by this commenter. Yes, she has no hope, and I have no hope. Nor, I suppose, do autismnostrum and autismherd (Kathleen). Read our blogs (Detritus is my person blog if you've missed it) and tell me we have no hope.
"You say nothing can change your children's autism."
No, we've most emphatically never ever said this. We've said there's no cure, but there are very effective treatments. And we've discussed them several times.
"Well your wrong. Autism can be changed. It can be changed by diet, chelation, drugs, therapy, and several other treatments."
Since we never said children and adults with autism couldn't improve, no, we're not wrong. Some children do seem to benefit from the diet. Since the poster knows I just recently stopped using the GFCF diet after four years, this is yet another proof of his willingness to be disingenuous.
Chelation. NO. Autism is not heavy metal toxicity and there is no scientific evidence to show it is of any benefit whatsoever. There is anecdotal evidence. Sort of like my anecdotal evidence concerning the diet. It seemed to make a difference, and yet NO regression off the diet and much happier kids.
Drugs don't change autism. They make some of the symptoms more manageable and having been down that route, I won't judge parents who use medications. Oh, but I'm really surprised to hear the poster say that since he has made it clear he completely distrusts big pharma. Why just tonight, he wrote this gem: "Also. What if you could give a child a lifelong disease and then sell that same child medicine for life? I'm sure they wouldn't do that." Yup. He wrote that.
"And since autism can be changed, then why can't it get better? I've seen my son go from bad to good back to bad and now worse than ever. How's that possible if autism can't be changed?"
Since I never argued, nor have my allies and friends ever posted such a statement, this is a strawman.
Now, the poster, if he reads this blog, might want to cry fowl (intentional pun on the spelling and one he'd well understand) and say I've attacked him. I've not. I've pointed out that his statements here are dishonest and inaccurate representations of my positions, and the positions of my friends and allies. And anyone at Huff who has been with the autism vaccine debates will see through this bit of nastiness for what it is.
I'll admit to in the past "attacking" the individual in the sense that I have pointed out the outrageousness of his past statements, and I've awarded him signs that involved calling him a name. A name I still feel was warranted by the statements he made. I've not namecalled here. And I won't as I don't need to. Nor will I award him any signs. He doesn't get any more signs nor does he get any more chances.
I try to remember on the autism threads that the people who are on the opposing side of the debate have feelings, have issues of their own. I try to remember they are people, too. And when a poster is really obnoxious or perseverating in the woo, I think of my son, who can be obnoxious and who perseverates past all reason. I try to realize the individual I am engaged in dialogue with might be on the broader autism phenotype, might not be intentional when his comments come across as obnoxious, as I would hope people would give my boy the benefit. Others, who are just not quite all together make me think of my grandmother, and so again, I try to give the benefit of the doubt.
I'm done with this particular poster, though. No more benefit of the doubt. No more charitable feelings. Done. He's name called without backing it up , he's posted inaccurate, inflammatory posts for no other purpose than to get a rise. He's done nothing to further the dialogue and everything to show himself to be an individual I won't even call a nemesis now. Done. I tolerate a lot, but I will not tolerate someone who tells outright lies. A sense of humor only gets one so far.
So, I hope this was worth it to him. This poster who knows of this site, since it is posted on my profile at Huff, who won't respond to my posts here, despite the invitation and the lack of moderation. Because I'm well and truly done with this person.
And, for full disclosure, this will be posted at the facebook group and the countering mirror at wordpress.